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Possibly the most important aspect to get right in trading is survival. This is number one. Without surviving the bad times we are gone, with no hope. Money management and risk may sound like boring subjects, but read on to see how exciting they can be once you learn the concrete reasons and logic for their use. You may never trade the same way again!

If you are trading at 70% accuracy, you can risk perhaps 10% on each commodity trade and survive the bad runs. But, even a 70% accurate commodity futures trader will have times when he is wrong 5-6 times in a row and more. The best traders risk less than 5% on each trade. That’s what having a big bankroll is all about. Not to carry large positions, but to survive the bad times and be able to trade another day.

Commodity futures pros do not have the luxury of blowing out their accounts like someone who has a day job and trades for a hobby. It’s like playing poker and having the advantage of the most chips at the table. Probability smiles on those who can hang in there the longest to let the odds swing their way. Those who are under-capitalized, thus in for a short spell, (risk a lot on each trade) have to be “lucky” to catch a run before their chips disappear. That’s why we need to have a method that attempts to identify, “high probability, low risk” trades. Remember this phrase: “high probability, low risk trades”

If you have less commodity account money to trade with than you desire, you can also gain this “deep pockets” edge by reducing your trading size. Most commodity futures and options traders could easily reduce their normal position size by one-half and instantly become better traders. Reduced pressure and survivability are only two of many reasons to trade smaller.

One more point about losses. Whether you use a mental or actual stop loss order, this exit point must be determined based on the specific market set up or conditions and not based on how much money you feel you should risk that day. You should start by deciding how far the market needs to move to negate your set up to make you wrong.

If price needs to go a long way to make you wrong, then this is not a low risk set up, now is it? Once you determine this distance, then and only then can you decide on how many future contracts or options to buy. If your money management parameters say to risk $1000, and the distance to prove you wrong is $500 a contract, then that means you can hold only two futures contracts. That’s it.

Many commodity futures traders do this backwards by saying they want to buy ten futures contracts – now where do they put their stop to risk only $1000? The stop will probably be too close and it will be like giving money away. It’s just another form of over-trading. The commodity market doesn’t care how much money you want to risk. The only concern for you is at what point are you wrong and that’s the point you want to throw in the towel for your predetermined loss.

With a small position you can let the market fight to get your money by traveling a long way, breaking through stubborn support or resistance, or chopping nowhere for a period of time. Whatever you do, don’t load up on a commodity position with more than your normal risk amount and then place a close stop and think, “this time is different.”

Play the game for the long run with every trade executed as perfectly as you can. The keenest competition out there is trying to get your money by doing things correctly every time. Don’t make it easy for them. Stay in the game, trade small, and execute your plan flawlessly every time. This will give you an edge over the vast public. Public speculators are generally poor traders with little discipline and plans. Be better than them and you have a chance of coming out ahead. Don’t worry about the superstars. There will be times when you eat their lunches too. Nobody wins all the time.

I focus much on loss strategy because if you can greatly reduce them, then the profits will take care of themselves. Realize that losses are part of the commodity futures and options game and no perfect trading system exists. Demanding trading perfection of yourself is futile and a sure road to failure. To make money, you don’t have to be the best trader in the world – just better than most!

Good Trading!

There is substantial risk of loss trading futures and options and may not be suitable for all types of investors. Only risk capital should be used.

By: Thomas Cathey

About the Author:
Thomas Cathey – 27-year trading veteran heads the managed futures division of Thomas Capital Management, LLC. View his TimeLine Trading market predictions and get his complete 44+ lesson, “Thomas Commodity Trading Course” – they’re all free. http://www.thomascapitalmanagement.com/commodity/welcome.htm Main site: http://www.ThomasCapitalManagement.com
You can often tell the trading sophistication of someone by their market bias. If they are always looking at the long side, in other words, always wanting to buy, they are probably new to the game. There’s many stock traders who don’t know what “selling short” means. Read on to see why you need to sell short to prosper, especially when trading commodity futures and for writing options.

I was talking with a commodity broker friend of mine today. He was complaining that the futures markets were relentless in their recent decline and hurting his clients. Indeed, the commodity markets in general were having a mini bear market after a spectacular advance. I asked him what percentage of his clients were short and making money on the decline. He responded in surprise, “short?!!” He thought for a bit and said one client held a wheat put while the rest of his nearly one million dollar book were long. Ninety-nine percent of his commodity clients were long! Therein lies the problem.

As we all know, for every long position there is a short position in the commodity futures and option markets. It’s a zero sum game. There were short traders on the other side of every position these clients held. Many were probably jumping up and down for joy as the market declined!

It pays to check your own bull and bear bias often. There are times to be mostly long or mostly short-biased during the middle and end of big moves. But to be mostly long after a relentless commodity bear decline is evidence of a problem. It shows holding onto losses despite obvious market evidence. After a large move up of any time frame, it is prudent to start liquidating some of the position, get totally flat or even consider the short side.

Holding long futures options that are eroding can also lull traders into big losses. The common response is, ” I can’t sell out here! – I still have plenty of time!” (time to hope for a miracle?)
When the time to option expiration finally arrives, the harsh reality sets in.

The moral is, the moment you realize you are wrong, start liquidating.

Part Two of Two Parts – Next!

There is substantial risk of loss trading futures and options and may not be suitable for all types of investors. Only risk capital should be used.

By: Thomas Cathey

About the Author:
Thomas Cathey directs the managed futures division of Thomas Capital Management, LLC. Get FREE, the complete 44+ lesson, “Thomas Commodity Trading Course” by visiting: http://www.thomascapitalmanagement.com/commodity/welcome.htm It’s brand new and fun reading… a “street-wise” trading e-course. Visit the main Thomas Capital Management trading website at: http://www.ThomasCapitalManagement.com
Trader asked:


Looking for Manufacturers / Suppliers/ Direct Mandates for Core commodities such as Gold, HMS-1 & 2, Sugar, Wheat, Rice, Coal, Urea, Spices for International Trade.

Since When Commodities Were Traded on Exchange?

sidharth_manu asked:


why are oil barrels traded on exchanges these days? why not just between 2 parties? Is this (trading on exchange) the only way to determine oils price in global market? How was the price determined 50 yrs back then?
Would appreciate ur response. Thanks

audidriver79 asked:


I’m not really familiar with commodities trading, but I hear you can make a lot of money it. So does anyone know anything about Goldline International, Inc.? Though deal in, obviously, gold. I’m sure the job is commission-based, but is it legit? I currently have a salaried job that pays $50K, but I would like to make a whole lot more

matroidman asked:


Several online sources offer expensive services for supplying this data but they all come with powerful additional capabilities that are of no use to me. I just need the data to do some simple trading system backtesting.

S D asked:


I know SEC regulation D is related. How about federal security act? Civil law? Business law? State law? Commodity Futures Trading Commission ? National Association of Securities Dealers? I would like everything related to shareholders right within this context. thank you.

How Do Commodities Traders Make Money?

pocito asked:


I have some friends in finacial planing and ehy have to chase people around for their money to invest with them. Do commodities traders do the same thing? do they chase people around to park their money with them and they trade on their behalf? How do they make money? I am quite new to this area but I have heard you can make a lot of money and also lose a lot of money. Do you have to study finance to go into that path or any degree will do as long as you know the right people? Can somebody alsogive me a webste where i can read some examples of how trading in comodities work? I am also looking for somebody to reccomend me a book on the subject.

ankush asked:


i need the historicals for copper

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